l correspondent bill neely, what do we know about emwazi and how he might have been radicalized. >> the man who had this nickname we know he was a young man from west london. you just heard the director of an advocacy group called cage saying he didn't just live in britain but radicalized by britain by the treatment he reefd in 2009 after he graduated from computer sciences from westminster he went to tanzania he was picked up and questioned and deported to the netherlands where he was questioned again by british security officials about was he going to somalia to join the al shabab terror network there. once again in 2010 he was picked up by mi5, fingerprinted and searched and questioned again. and of course through the time line eventually in 2013 probably, he ends up in syria.

i mean it does open up a lot of questions to what extent was he on the radar of the security services? even when he was at university what was it that alerted them first of all. why did they not stop him going to syria in 2012, 2013? was he on a terror watch list or just a name on a database? you know it's interesting that we know who he is now but it does throw up quite a lot of questions. >> by him, you mentioned al shabab there is some indication he was fixated on shabab and somalia, how did that lead to isis? do we have any idea? >> we don't know. some of the hostages who were held identified the man known as jihadi john as being someone who was obsessed with somalia and made them watch videos about somalia but exactly how he became interested or obsessed by somalia, we dont know and how he ended up in syria is another

question. again, this advocacy group says that he tried to go to kuwait to marry someone there. he was prevented from doing so apparently, they say, by british authorities. and the direct quote was that they said i feel like a prisoner i feel like i'm controlled by the british security services. they are implying he got angry, wanted them to go to saudi arabia and ended up in 2012 2013 going to syria. so you know it does change some things we now know who this man is. it's interesting that it does break the template if you like. this is an intelligent man with a degree in computer sciences and he's also angry, what we knew that a foreigner can become the face of the organization. does it change much more beyond that? no, he's still in isis and still killing and still wanted and still the world's most hunted man. >> seems to be the new normal in

so many western countries, this source of radicalization so close to hem. thank you so much. back in the u.s. another story of home grown terrorism, we're learning more today about the brooklyn men accused of plotting to join isis as well. the fbi alleging that two of those who appeared in court today in new york talked openly online about their plan to join extremists in syria and one talked about targeting the president and all were accused of discussing striking targets as home targets like coney island. one of the lawyers cautioned yesterday this investigation is still under way. >> presumption of innocence is still the law of the land in america and we have every intention of fighting this case vigorously -- >> joining me now, chief investigator reporter jonathan dienst. the fbi have been investigating

these individuals for some time. how deep did that investigation go? >> it started from the summer of 2014 with some rants and threats made online on an overseas website. they picked up on that and as a result that started the investigation. looking at one man, they followed him and tracked him and that led to two other individuals and in the end there was one money man a suspect in florida, he's from brooklyn arrested in florida. he ran cell phone shops, apparently how they knew each other selling phones at area kiosks and some worked at a falllafel shop. they were reading and watching isis videos according to the fbi and literally raised funds to buy plane tickets to try to travel overseas to turkey and get into syria, that according to the fbi. if not, they allegedly boeflted if they couldn't get there, they would try to carry out attacks here. >> one of those frightening

details there, how big these communities are and how many more there are online they were communicating with. >> not only the communications over there, what has the fbi and nypd here in new york and fbi director say in all 50 states now there are literally dozens and dozens of people with apparent sympathies leans of this isis ideology and that there are people they are concerned about and watching those people as of now haven't crossed the line. arrests have not been made but there are ongoing concerns about the home grown radicalization of people here that could try to do harm either here or travel over there to cause home there. >> incredibly difficult phenomenon to confront here. let's head out to brooklyn and adam reiss. walk us through what you saw there. >> reporter: what was most striking is how young the two men looked only 19 and 24 say

he'd me tof was wearing high tops and the prosecutor said they are a significant flight risk and these were outrageous allegations and threats, the idea they would kill fbi agents and police officers and even threaten to kill president obama. the defense attorney said these are only allegations and it's possible that a confidential informant coerced them. at the apartment here they shared, nothing out of the ordinary they paid rent on time and neighbors said they didn't see anything out of the ordinary. their next hearing is on march 11th. ronan. >> thanks adam reiss. let's go to capitol hill where the senate late yesterday moved forward with the clean measure to fund the department of homeland security. with a friday deadline looming, its fate in the house is very much unclear. john boehner said this morning he's going to keep backing the other measure, the one that

would strip the president's immigration action. listen to speaker boehner and nancy pelosi this morning. >> if ands and buts were candy and nuts every day would be christmas. we passed a bill six weeks ago, six weeks ago. >> it's harmful to our national security, our homeland security for us to be inching along whether it's two months four months, stop the games playing letsz get serious. >> stop the games playing, that's not something congress does a lot. kelly, is there any scenario in which boehner would allow a vote on this clean funding bill? >> not that he'll acknowledge publicly at this point he is holding his cards close to his vest and said over and over and over that he wants to see what the senate will do first and mitch mcconnell the republican leader has made it pretty clear his road map. he wants to bring forward a clean bill which would mean

funding the department of homeland security for the rest of this fiscal year. and at the same time taking out what the house put in and worked so hard to get passed on their side, which are restrictions to the president's immigration policy. so if it comes back to the house that way, we just don't know yet what house speaker john boehner would do. he could conceivably bring it forward and have democrats carry it over the line but right now he does not want to reveal his ultimate end game strategy in part because there's still time left, even though it is just over a day until this runs out because outside forces like the conservative voices within his conference as well as the influences in conservative circles outside would really jump on that and there isn't an absolute need for him to do so just yet. so the senate has not yet gotten through its procedural maneuvers that is expected to happen. and when it does then the ball really is in john boehner's court so he's trying to hold off from showing too much about how

this might end. >> kelly, one thing we've heard, there hasn't been a lot of conversation between boehner and mcconnell. what more can you tell us about that potential fault line? >> part of that is strategic, they have a weekly meeting and normally in very close tough and their staff certainly are. they were gone for a period of time and because it is not helpful to john boehner right now to be seen sort of working out a deal behind the scenes with mitch mcconnell they really sort of kept to their own camps and asked about the relationship today john boehner said they have a very good relationship but they have two different, two very big jobs and they are not always in agreement. >> kelly o'donnell, thanks the conservative political action conference kicks off in earnest in the suburbs of maryland. chris christie has taken to the stage. you're watching that live right here. usually cpac is a team for leaders to share thoughts and everyone else to grab a great bumper sticker. this year it's 2016 on the mind

for all ye who enter there. >> for those of you i haven't had a chance to meet yet, my name is mike lee and i am not running for president. >> what am i for? what am i really ready for? i'm not ready for hillary. >> and other speakers are unlikely to change the 2016 focus in addition to governor christie speaking this hour is texas senator ted cruz. joining me from maryland kasie hunt. what's the message there. >> reporter: this is so far been a day that you would in some ways expect. there have been a lot of discussion of the hot button issues that are going to be active on the right wing of the party during the 2016 presidential primary. christy speaking now as you say went aggressively after the mainstream media and said they want to kill you, talking about specifically the new york times. there's been a lot of discussion

so far there was a panel about common core and whether or not republican candidates should support it. there's actually quite a list of republican governors and former governors who were at one point supportive of those common core standards and starting to walk that back and jeb bush is one of those who xpretsed support for the common core standards in the past. we'll hear from him on friday. there are a lot of questions about just what this appearance will mean for him. it will be his first time in front of a activist conservative crowd like this since expressing interest in the 2016 race and it's full of pit falls ss for him. his team is being aggressive and planning on bringing supporters here tomorrow to make the crowd a little bit more supportive but it's going to be a real test ronan. >> if there's one theme running through all of this the media not their friends, kasie hunt spectacular reporting from you. >> thank you. >> stay with us. right up next the word is

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how did this come about? your reporters found extraordinary sources close to emwazi. >> obviously i think quite a number of places have been interested in who this individual is since he first appeared in videos and beheading hostages. and at that point we began to try to find out what we could. there were a number of false trails but we got a lead on a name and we were able to follow it through into the community he lived in in london and find people who are able to give us some clarity on his name and then it was just one source after another until we felt we were confident that we had it. >> now that we know who he is what should people take away from mohammed emwazi's story? >> the difficulty with all of these stories is trying to understand the road from being a

recent graduate of a university in london to becoming the face of barbarrism of this organization. there's no easy explanation for that. it does say and does show that well educated middle class kids who can travel abroad who have privileges who come from well to do families are as attracted to this as alienated poor kids if in fact they were also attracted in equal numbers. >> you've probably seen this advocacy group in the uk releasing a statement today, talking about emwazi's life from 2009 when he started corresponding with that group about the harassment he said he was facing from u.k. security services. they kind of pointed the finger at those security groups. take a listen. >> the question shouldn't be about jihadi john but they

should be about what role have our security services played in completely alienating people in this society and this country and turning them away from being able to find solutions to the problems that they have. >> cage saying this young man saying he was given the message he didn't belong in britain. does that seem like a fair characterization of what he went through? >> it's always difficult to be conclusive about cause and effect and what led him down the path he took. clearly he crossed the radar of the british security services for some reason they believed he was interested in going to somalia and may have attempted to recruit him. and when he returned to london from the trip to kuwait they prevented him from going back. he complained that he felt like he was imprisoned in his own city in london. his alienation grew and at some

point in 2012 he departed. but whether you can lay on the british security services the actions that he subsequently took, that's quite a reach. >> how typical is is this story from the reporting that you've been working on? is isis banking on taking advantage of that purported sense of alienation you just heard that man talk about that some muslims seem to feel in the western countries? >> i think alienation is part of it. i think islamic state has an allure that is poorly understood here. we now have 20,000 foreign fighters from 90 different countries around the world. that's an extraordinary phenomenon. clearly the idea that they are creating the caliphate and this group has seized territory, proved itself in ways no other terrorist group previously has done combined with this social media campaign that they are running constantly has made

them very, very attractive for young people. >> thank you pete finn. it's not just england we're talking about here. home grown terrorism is threatening the western world and very much a reality right here in the united states. today we're learning more about those three men in federal custody here in new york. two of them say the fbi -- that the fbi says plan to join isis and actually went as far as purchasing plane tickets. a third is believed to have supported those individuals. investigators were tracking chatter and say they volunteered to attack here in the u.s. if they couldn't get to syria. this is the first time terrorism charges have been brought against someone in new york city for plotting to fight for isis. but it's a bigger problem. u.s. officials believe as many as 150 american citizens in fact have traveled or attempted to travel to syria and iraq to fight with isis. that's citizens and residents. british research group estimates around 100 actually reached the

battle zs zone that's just americans we're talking about. this problem is everywhere. mitchell sillber, supervised terrorism related investigations and now executive managing director at k2 intelligence. thank you so much. what do we know about this particular investigation? >> well we know this investigation was initially triggered by the examination of social media websites and in particular an uzbeki website. we talked about isis and how important their experience is on social media only by monitoring that did we find the thread that unraveled that investigation. law enforcement is very focused on that. >> in your tenure with the nypd did you encounter this home grown recruitment? we did. we had a number of cases where there were new york residents who were interested in traveling overseas. we had two individuals in 2009

from the greater new york area from new jersey who wanted to go to somalia and fight. they said if they were not able to go to somalia, they would do something here in the united states. >> in that case fight for what al shabab. >> in that case it was fight for al shabab yes. >> how have the new groups changed the game is there? is there anything markedly different? >> for al qaeda, recruitment, a lot of it was from the bottom up. individuals decided they wanted to go and had to travel to afghanistan, to yemen, somalia and hoped they would meet somebody. here it seems like we've learned from this case that these individuals were in contact with someone in iraq who was giving them advice advice on how to cross from the syrian border into turkey. so there's this connectivity via the web and social media where people who are want to bes in new york are connecting with people who you real terrorists in iraq and syria. >> we haven't yet learn a lot of

biographical details about these individuals in new york but we've heard that this individual in the u.k. jihadi john may have been a middle class well to do guy with an education. is that a phenomenon that you saw, people that weren't at the fringes of society being pulled into this recruitment? >> this is a story we've seen many times. in fact in the uk if you think about the underwear bomber he was a university student, he was very active politically active and then decided to travel to yemen before he became a terrorist himself. so not just in the uk but this fen nom na of westerners is about ideology and wanting to be part of a cause that's larger than yourself, being part of a utopia utopia, the caliphate and to some degree being a hero jihadi special forces which is what these guys wanted to be. >> an incredibly troubling phenomenon and very hard tore law enforcement to confront.

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regulation, at least for now. >> a lot of happy people right now. thank you so much. our other big tech story and this one is in the medical world. this week the u.k. became the first country in the world to legalize the creation of babies that's not the end of the sentence there first, from not two but three people babies from three people new castle university they have developed a pioneering technique with the aim of eliminating certain genetic defects. a tiny amount of healthy dna from a second woman rewould replace the faulty of the mother. the first baby of this kind could be born as soon as 2016. but the firestorm is kicking off right now. joining me now to hash this out, art caplin, nyu's langone medical center. a medical first in the year if you asked the press, i have an

odd number of parents, is this safe is my first question? >> that was a joke but there are people born with three parents, we have adoption people who have surrogate mothers and egg and sperm donors. >> that is a relevant ethical consideration, one of the objections people have does this throw out of balance the conventional parenting. >> i'm going to say no there are plenty of ivf babies around where somebody donated the egg and the concept of a family didn't fall apart. so what is this little mitokron dree deere ya. they need energy. it is the battery. in some babies that little battery is defective and that causes terrible diseases because the cells don't grow right. the solution is transplant a battery from a normal egg into the defective egg. how do you know it's defective?

because you had a child with a disease previously. and then hopefully you get enough energy in the embryo to produce a healthy kid. i understand there are objections but in general i think this is therapeutic, trying to fix a disease. >> right off the bat, how safe is moving that mitochondrial dna. >> it has been shown in monkeys. do we absolutely know that no? the kid with the defect if he's born is probably going to die. safe is relative to the other option, which is this isn't going to work. >> this is about saving lives. >> this is about saving lives. sfwl when you transfer that dna, a very tiny percentage of dna from this third parent is induced. >> it is. >> perhaps not enough to influence any trait?

>> not much but some people get nervous and say you crossed the line because those will be inherited, that's the start of going towards genetically engineering future babies today it's mite con drooe ya or tomorrows the brain or whatever. i say you don't have to cross the line yet because it is therapy and you can draw the line there. others worry about that. >> a lot of people still making the slippery slope argument. this is one parliamentarian during this debate in england. >> i think altering the genes of a child, creating a new child, essentially opening the way to determining the type of person who is born is a very difficult ethical boun dri to cross. >> that's one ethical objection, another is this would mask the identity of essentially a parent, someone who contributed some genetic data anyway. how do those ethical objections

sit with you? >> so the idea that you're a parent because you contribute this little battery unit i'm not moved very much by that. i don't think you'll get a claim to say yes, i'm a parent too. the slippery slope argument you start introducing genes into embryos and we're making super babies and whatever it's a slippery slope. that's why we have stairs. you could put regulations and rules that say if it's not therapeutic you can't do it. you can do genetic engineering to fix cystic fib rose sis or -- >> how likely is this coming? >> i think we'll see it next year here. the9 capability is here and animal experiments were all done in oregon, it will come here. >> we better work it out now and in a hurry. thank you for explaining how babies are made. and just ahead, finally, the national rape kit backlog

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across america, about 400,000 rape kits are sitting untested. each collected in an invasive procedure from one survivor still waiting for justice, each a potential key to taking a rapist off the streets. this week one breakthrough, the city of houston has just cleared its backlog of 6,663 untested rape kits. the result? 29 people have been charged. sixñr convicted.

>> the push to end the backlog in houston and around the country is partly the work of a group of woman who fought back insisting they see justice. we talked to one while following this story last year. >> i lost my life for those nine years. >> reporter: in 2003 megan was a memphis area high school student and loved art and even hoped to be a painter. but everything changed one monday afternoon. she just gotten home from school and letting her dog out when a masked man attacked her at knife point. >> i just been attacked in my home so i consented to the invasive procedure of a frens sick investigation on my body. my body was the crime scene. >> reporter: there are women who describe that as like another

assault. >> absolutely. it absolutely was. that forensic investigation is called a rape kit, a collection of dna evidence that the police can test to identify a rapist. but megan's kit was not tested. in fact, it sat untouched for nine long years. >> you live like an animal in the world in survival mode knowing there's this criminal out there and you're helpless to do anything about it. >> megan is just one voice fighting to end the backlog. right here in new york, another voice, sy vance, who late last year pledged $35 million to help eliminate the national rape kit backlog. thank you so much for coming on. always a pleasure. looking at the houston news does that give you hope for the backlog around the country? >> absolutely. houston's announcement that it obtained the $6 million it needed to address its rape kit

backlog and you indicated 29 cases filed and six convicted what that reflects is a national consensus that enough is enough and cities and counties around the country are i think being held accountable to reduce their rape kit backlog. houston is the latest example. new york did this in the early 2000 time period. >> new york and houston joining a small club of cities that have eliminated their backlogs, many around the country with many of these kits sitting sometimes for years. what are they not doing? >> i think it's principlely a question of -- it's a small price compared to the opportunity to catch a rapist and bring justice to the victim but it's expensive. it's the motivator for our office to commit to a $35 million pledge to fund rape kit

testing across the country. we sent out an express of interest and states have indicated they would like to apply for the funding. and i think that > along with the commitment then following by the federal government is a really important step it's not going to solve the problem but take us down the road. >> let's talk about both of those things. after a long haul on the hill and federal money came through for this. >> it was being voted on when i was here last. >> and you are one of the voices pushing that through many voices koim r came together for that. on your end you came up withñ8 an unconventional solution. tell me where that came from and how you came up with the idea of dispersing it around the country? >> our office has been on the forefront of handling complicated large scale foreign bank cases foreign bank investigations where they have evaded american sanctions laws in a nutshell. thoseq dollars from the banks we have invested in what we hope are transformative criminal justice initiatives housing

security enabling the nypd to have a mobility initiative to make sure its officers are armed with the appropriate software to do their job. another was to take on our part in the rape kit backlog project nationwide. >> you'rej/'7w giving the new york forfeit tourc money to other cities that need the help? >> yeah, and the answer is -- because we believe this is an important national criminal justice initiative, it speaks to our office's commitment and commitment of so many women around the country to make sure these cases do not lie uninvestigated. when we solve cases in houston or california or in texas or çó milwaukee, those cases some of them will come back to new york and be individuals whose dna hits on the fbi from the minnesota case that may well come back to a new york unsolved rape. this is a national justice

problem. i want to get a sense of the scope of what you've done. how many cities expressed interest? >> 40 jurisdictions that have expressed interest from 26 separate states, total of 60,000 backlog rape kits. >> 60,000 potentially. >> it's -- everyone is coming together on this issue. we have to thank the advocates and thank the survivors and it's a privilege to be part of this process. >> it's an extraordinary move. while i have you here, of course everyone in the new york justice system is focused on the brooklyn three, the individuals radicalized and going to fight with isis potentially. what do you know about that investigation and what do you feel comfortable telling us? >> i know it's in great hands with the nypd and fbi and u.s. attorney in eastern district of new york. what it speaks to as i understand from the papers are the new face of terror investigations involving home grown violent extremists, these are individuals not necessarily part of any organized terrorism

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produced by the terror group isis. while the white house is not confirming the identity of the man, a u.s. intelligence official has confirmed to nbc news that the suspect's nameç is mohammed emwazi. >> we are an islamic state. >> emwazi is believed to be the masked manage you see there that was heard in several videos showing the lead up and the aftermath of the beheading of hostages including americans james foley, stephen sotloff. peter king, who sits on the house homeland security committee, sat down with my colleague kristen welker alné.l discussed the difficulty of actually captures emwazi. >> as far as getting closer, i agree, saying we don't know exactly where he is and we don't have very much intelligence on the ground. so my belief would be if we get him right now, it's going to be by luck. ever since snowden made his disclosures, isis and others ha